well it doesnt matter what i or anyone else believes facts are all that matters , for instance if i was to say to you that i believe fat johnny is an all round decent bloke and that young alec is 100% hetrosexual then you would know i am talking nonsense , but if i was to tell you some facts like, that fat johnny would stab his own granny for a couple of shillings or that young alec has an arse like a rosebud then you would know it to be facts ! i rest my case .